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11/04/09 2:41AM |
I was thinking today... only cause I have lots of time when not reading books. When playing around with Lightroom 3, I really liked the output to movie and to take a series of shots, say a waterfall or sunset and combine them into a movie like a time-lapse, you can add sound to the image if needed. My idea, and I am sure someone is doing this all ready, but to take that movie that is created either the time-lapse or the series of shots one wants and selling them in a digital frame any size I guess. I figure the image would be safe cause it will be in a movie file and not as a individual image and sound can be added for effect. Lots of people like waterfalls but like the sound as well. Is this a waste of time idea or something worth trying. Digital frames can be pretty expensive for higher resolutions but not to bad at lower resolutions. Oh well just thinking out loud, would love feedback if you have any.
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11/04/09 4:32AM |
My mother utilizes the rain "machine" to fall asleep. How wonderful would it be to actually look at a waterfall too. I think it would be relaxing - I think it is a GREAT idea - kudos! Are there other out there doing this yet?
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11/04/09 5:57AM |
If I understand what you are saying, I get e-mails from a friend in England that sends me post that sound like what you are trying. If that's the case, by all means go for it.
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11/04/09 8:08AM |
Markos. No idea is stupid...Most known inventors and genious...Look at Bill Gates....People might thought it was stupid those days when those kids where toying with the inventure in garage.....But today we all depend on it... Go for it..Sounds awsome..
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11/04/09 9:33AM |
Marko, marketed right, and it show work for you.. lots of people like to have visuals or sounds.. Look at the firelogs burning CD's out there, or the nature sounds cd's , Go for it.. the one thing, would be to make sure they could not capture single frame shots for photos..If your intent is to sell single images of the time lapse project to want to do.. I say that because the future of Photography is the merging of video and single shot images... Look at the still shot cameras coming out with video abilities and look at camcorders that allow you to print a frame off the video images . They eventually want to merge the two into one... you will be able to print a high qauality image off your viedo images... But back to your question.. if you have a interesting time lapse series.. and it is priced right, I see no reason why it would not work for you.. SEE there is the rainbow out of the down side of you not having a job right now.. You get to read all of this stuff and realize it faster in a shorter time frame.. I wish you luck on it..
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11/04/09 11:08PM |
MJ, I am not sure if anyone else is doing it. Gary, thats the hard part, getting interesting time-laps, I have to figure out when to concentrate on the time laps, it might mean missing "the shot" or visa versa. I guess I will feel my way through that. On the worrying about stealing frames, I don't see that as an issue cause if I go the 800x600 route it won't matter much. I might contact some frame makes, but I want to get a group of these movies done before I do that. Would it be best to put the movie in the frame myself and let the user put there own images in the frame as well, cause that is what will happen... The price will be the cost of the frame plus the cost of the image. It is cool cause I can manipulate the images in the series...saturation and other things before I create it. That could yield some interesting things, but in turn it will be much more work, cause of the multiple images need to match in some way to make it look good. The other thing I was thinking was to take say a group of flower images and make a frame with a flower slideshow with perhaps the sounds of spring/summer. Thanks you guys for the input. Bianca, Mr Gates didn't create anything, he bought DOS and sold it to IBM, he was a master marketer though, somehow convinced the world that DOS and Windows 3.1 (dos shell) was better than a Mac and I am a fan of Windows to this day. That is a good point cause the first computers were probably built in a garage... like the Apple computers.
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11/05/09 9:40AM |
I would probably offer both ways.. there are going to be those that don't want anything technical to do with computers but would love the finish product, if the scenery was pleasant to them. and then their are those that want to add to it and are not afraid or intimidated to add their own images.. Bottom line, if you have something that is eye candy for the viewer.. They will come.... as long as the price point is within their means... we have all been there on that point when selling products...LOL Keep me in the loop, would love to see how it is progressing for you.. sounds like something down the line I wouldn't mind trying... when I learn all that stuff.. I still have to decide on lightroom version to go for...
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11/05/09 10:34AM |
I will do that... I would wait for 3.0... it is faster at least the beta is over Lightroom 2. I will have to wait on buying the upgrade cause I can't afford it right now, I will probably download the trial when it comes out. I haven't converted my catalogs over to 3 cause it is a beta and it is prone to errors. I should mention that it lets you put your catalog as a shared file so it can be used between multiple computers which is nice cause I have it installed on my notebook (which I use sometimes to tag images) but I have to export those images to a shared folder then import them when they copy over to my desktop, now I won't need to do that, at least from what I read about that feature. That time-lapse to movie thing isn't technical cause you use a plugin that comes with lightroom or is downloadable now... and use lightroom's slide show tab, its actually quite easy, just taking the images and editing those is more difficult.
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11/09/09 8:12AM |
Markos it does sound like a really great idea, go for it! There's all these digital picture frames in peoples homes nowadays (I don't have one yet) maybe they can come with some of your images and sounds of nature and people can just add their family pics to it or such and create a relaxing moving pic blend. I've seen at Target for example a section where they have these nature CD's next to the small electric portable waterfalls, and it's so relaxing to just stay in there for a minute listening to soothing sounds and some celtic or ethereal music playing in the background, now if you have the images and music without the messy waterfall spilling, lol well, that would be very kewl. Someone did give me one of those portable little waterfalls for my desk but it kept spilling over and it runs out of batteries so fast, it was unnerving so it defeated the "relaxing" purpose. Maybe the electric one was better lol
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11/10/09 11:39AM |
Markos, have you seen the Animoto website? It has some interesting software for making videos out of your photography. I had registered a while ago for a free membership but for one thing or the other never get around to doing a clip. Maybe someday. It's not a slideshow- it's video pieces from photos, video clips and music into one. Anyway, check it out for ideas. http://animoto.com/photography
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11/10/09 2:01PM |
I will check that out, but I'd rather stay away from web based creation tools... there is free plugins for lightroom and I will have better control. Thank you though :)
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11/18/09 2:38PM |
I found some nice frames... I think they do videos an audios, I have to do a little more research. My problem is a 10 in frame meaning 10 inch LCD cost about $130, there is a 15 in but I didn't see the cost of that one. Why would someone want to spend that much for something like what I was talking below? I obviously can't buy pallets of these things for cheaper... I wouldn't make a lot per sale of these, would it be worth the extra effort. Would someone rather have a 7 in one for next to there bed or the 15 in. They come with remotes to pause or to stop sound so thats nice. I wish I could sell larger ones but 17 inch is the largest I have seen of these things.
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11/18/09 11:42PM |
That is the rub of it... the people selling these items(frames) or of these printing your prints on mugs etc.. are the one's making the money as by the time we try to add out little bit of profit on it. they get quite expensive as you are seeing with those frames... maybe what you could do is sell your images//slide shows on a usb plug device that one can plug into those frames.. that way you can make a profit and they can buy the frames however they want and just plug in your creative work... That is how I would go about it until you can somehow get the unit price cost down on the frames.. That is one of the reasons I don't sell framed prints that much anymore.. Gets too expensive unless you own your own framing buisness or want to invest into making your own frames.. I prefer to sell just the prints or prints with matting..
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11/19/09 9:15AM |
"maybe what you could do is sell your images//slide shows on a usb plug device that one can plug into those frames.. that way you can make a profit and they can buy the frames however they want and just plug in your creative work..." Gary ohh wow you guys got a good going here. Keep brainstorming. What about those memory sticks? what if you were to sell your slides with them and people stick them literally wherever they want/need them? They would be even easier to send by snail mail because they're small and light.
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11/19/09 9:15AM |
they got all sorts of shapes too
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11/19/09 9:28AM |
Hey, I like that...:)
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11/19/09 3:19PM |
I don't think those frames take usb... CF cards and SD. If I do this it will be 7 in frames, those don't cost alot.
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11/19/09 3:49PM |
well , if that keeps the cost down, not a bad way to start out.. and if folks like it and want bigger , you an always go from there.. That is right, they do take cards.. I had only looked at them a bit a year ago.. I too felt they were too expensive and was waiting for the price to come down.. well you could always load of a card ,same as a usb.. just need a way to keep from folks sharing it or something , so you don't lose potential profit for your endeavor..
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11/19/09 4:06PM |
That is a challenge, I wouldn't know where to start with that. If they share the video (cause that is what it will be) I don't see much of a problem... I could sell it without the cable to connect it to the computer, but its not difficult to goto a store and buy one.
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